Strange (and upsetting!) DRC related rumor

bfioca · Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Location: Seattle, WA

EDIT: This rumor has been verified as unfounded. My apologies. This post served the way it was intended - it forced this issue to be addressed quickly and we were able to discover the truth.

I'm the last one to be believing rumors. (no, really!) Smile

But, I recently ran across a rumor concerning the Jackets we were trying to obtain for some of our members at The Great Tree.

The rumor is essentially that the DRC had recently burned (as in, set fire to) the shipment of jackets that we had been waiting for just before the Cavern was closed.

Now, this is quite an accusation, and I want to make clear that I'm not trying to propagate this rumor. Myself and the GTers have been pretty impressed with the work the DRC has done since we all left the Cavern 3 years ago. The Liaisons represent fantastic progress toward uniting the explorers and the DRC - which represented pretty much most of the contention we had with the DRC originally. We're looking forward to getting to work with the DRC through the Liaisons.

I just thought it would be best to bring it to the DRC's attention immediately to give them a chance to shoot it down. I might even be able to understand if they simply intercepted them in an effort to keep things from flaring up again. That would at least be somewhat fair, based on the trouble we stirred up 3 years ago; however, burning seems not only harsh, but actively adversarial.

If this rumor were true, I think it would really be a giant setback in the effort to unify the DRC and the explorers (those jackets mean a lot to us - and we've worked to change their meaning away from what people might think Sharper intended).

Just to reiterate, I really don't think this rumor is true, but it seems to be spreading pretty fast and it would probably be best for the DRC to make a clarification statement about it. (I think we all know how much this community likes to get upset about things. Smile

)

Sincerely,
Brian Fioca for The Great Tree
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JohnLynch · Joined: 28 Feb 2006

If the DRC responded to every negative rumor about them they wouldn't have any time to do any restoring. Especially when you consider if the DRC did make a habit of responding to rumors, people would start inventing them. If you personally consider this rumor to be likely enough to want a DRC response, perhaps you should talk to one of our liaisons about it.

Myself. I just can't see them doing it.

Anna Catherine · Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Location: Narayan

bfioca · Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Location: Seattle, WA

Good point, John. We have spoken to the Liaisons about it, and they're going to work on it. I just thought it would be good to try to get this taken care of sooner rather than later to minimize any misunderstanding. Like I said, probably nothing. If so, then we'll at least know to ignore these kinds of things in the future. But this is coming from people who don't like to spread rumors... and I trust them.

I really don't post about stuff like this unless it's pretty major (you can check! Smile

). My policy is mostly to not get involved unless it impacts everyone in a pretty important way.
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JohnLynch · Joined: 28 Feb 2006

Ashtar · Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:35 pm Post subject:

Well I wouldn't be much of a person if I didn't speak out in support of Brian's efforts since I'm the one who started this in the first place. I won't go into all the gory details here, but you can read my posting on the GT forum:

http://thegreattree.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=1108

Like I mentioned in replies throughout the thread, this was only a RUMOR, given by what I consider a reliable source. If I didn't think it had some measure of merit at all, I never would have posted it. So hopefully soon, we will all know if my source can be trusted. And if it's just a rumor, I'll go back to my corner and be quiet once more Smile

Ashtar

bfioca · Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Location: Seattle, WA

Please notice (if it's not obvious already) that we're not trying to overreact here. The days of us getting riled up over nothing are long gone. We're just trying to get to the bottom of this. If this turns out to be true, well, we'll have to figure something out. I'd be surprised if there was leftover animosity between us, but if there is, we'll figure something out, for sure...

We're all looking forward to getting to explore D'ni once more, and we think we have a lot to contribute. And we're looking forward to helping.
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Tehl Nava · Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:34 pm Post subject:

And so starts more rumors and hostilities....

Perhaps there is another perspective on this that doesn't involve this kind of behavior. But what do I know, I keep winding up getting chased by an angry mob for something.
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Saxy · Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Location: Under the New Mexico desert

Great diplomatic post, Brian. This definitely isn't a time for knee-jerk reactions, and I think it's good to be fair about it and let the DRC shoot down the rumor if it's untrue. I also think our reaction to the rumor is a testament to how the community can civilly work through tension.

Although we'd be understandably upset if the jackets were burned, it's definitely not going to adversely affect the bond of The Great Tree. Smile

bfioca · Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Location: Seattle, WA

Thanks, Saxy and Ashtar and John and Annacat.

Looking forward to the resolution of this mystery. Smile

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Ian Atrus · Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Location: Italy

Gotta love rumours... Rolling Eyes

If this turns out to be true, I'm going to be very disappointed with the DRC. However, until we get some actual proof, I'll be having a really hard time believing that the DRC would resurrect a box of jackets 3 years later just to burn them. What's the point? If they just wanted to get rid of them, there are better ways. If they wanted to make some sort of misguided statement about the GT, they would have made it public. Burning them in great secret makes no sense at all.
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Tweek · Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Location: Ae'Gura

So much for waiting for concrete evidence Rolling Eyes

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Professor Askew · Joined: 21 Dec 2005 Location: Hartford, CT.

How do you root out the truth of the rumor if you don't propagate it? Twisted Evil

I asked Michael Engberg not overly long ago if he would look into the outcome of the Great Tree jackets seeing as Mr. Sharper doesn't seem interested in the restoration of D'ni any longer. (Actually, I gave Engberg just the first part of that statement. Wink

) He said he would look into it.

Mr. Engberg?
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Whilyam · Joined: 07 Jan 2006

It might help if Ashtar revealed his sources. Was it Nick White? Michael Simpson? Even if it was just PMed to someone else, other than just "it's someone I trust." Might help if at least a few others knew who it was and could judge how they trusted them. I seem to remember seeing Marie on the KI yesterday, but she disappeared (and I considered it a KI bug).
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